Yeah, his skill is really no different than me cheating at chess using a computer. It’s a dumb mentality for him to have, unless it helps him level I suppose. I could beat Carl Magnusson if I can use a computer but it would be a pointless victory.

I don’t know, I just feel that Erin has been abusing her skills far, far more than she’s aware of. So I just, at my core, can’t really feel very bothered by the exchange. It gives me this icky vibe of “rules for me, but not for thee” just because (most) instances of Erin doing what she does have been positive (and aimed at people that almost always never realized so they can’t really hold an opinion about it), and somehow that should justify it.

Especially because she’s most bothered by the Flower thing because of the previous incident with Grim, meaning she’s just being rubbed the wrong way that there are people capable enough to notice her usual game, and do more thwn twirl to its tune. She’s entitled to her childishness, which she’s aware of, but it drains any capacity for me to be mad. Especially be ause the skill in the first place only works on trades she could be willing to do. Who the actual hell told her to be so willingly ignorant about skills like that existing and being entirely permitted legally while running a business? I didn’t get righteously angry for the servers Lyon got extra money from due to her Skills, or all the sweet deals Krysha cinched away from other people due to the skills of her new class. Why would this be different? Because Erin was more huffy about it than other people? Please.

I don’t think you realize how arrogant that sounds.

“I did it for your own good, and you did actually end up winning because of it. What’s the issue, then?”

The same issue with selling the flowers. Erin has a lot to gain if it pans out, it’s a positive in all senses, Xilf could be doing her a lot of good with that purchase later down the line, even saving people — but she didn’t wanna.

Though in the case of the flowers, the fact Erin had a prize at all just shows she wasn’t that ironclad about it. The fact she got played is what really bothered her.

Because he’s trying to have fun, not trying to win. It seems exceedingly obvious that he struggles at lot with how his cushy and privileged position with menial problems is actually exhausting him.

He wants adversity. And just like Erin doesn’t consider Chess something to gain skills for, I doubt he’d consider the game something to throw skills at if he wants to have fun. Unless the other side does, which Erin obviously hasn’t.

But would Erin say 2 million, hypothetically, because she’d actually be willing to part with the flower with that amount/considers it worth that much, or because she’s making an absurd number that is just a long-winded way to say “no, I don’t wanna, shush”?

The thing I feel people are missing here is that Erin’s conception of money isn’t very standard. She can be very naive on how costly some things can be, or simply not care to learn too much because it is not related to anything she wants to do or is interested in. Likewise, she cares exceedingly little about money, with the number of times she willingly tries to go into the red because something else is a way higher priority to her. It is really not that normal to go into a deficit so willingly and so constantly just because the alternative irks you, so her conceptions on money aren’t a very superficial thing either.

but how come, erin being normalized?, no!, how can this be, how could this happen!, it was her thing and the thing is now gone!

“[Path to Victory]. It’s simpler with easy games. You wouldn’t happen to be able to show me this ‘Go’ game, or ‘Shogi’, would you?”

A certain other long webnovel causes me to be worried about an ability called “Path to Victory”

You’re kind of forgetting that they tried using tactics that they’ve only been using against monsters, against literally the best mage in a walled city. Not only is he considerably higher level than all of them are, but he’s also been training his body his entire life, and he has likely decades more experience than them – not just in magic, but in wars. Essentially, he’s better than they are in every aspect, he has the experience to back it up, and they are using poor tactics against an opponent that can actually think and plan. It’s not really surprising that they would lose.

Experience plays a huge part in how efficient someone is at fighting. You make the same mistake in the above comments regarding Jelaqua: she may not be that much higher of a level, but she’s been adventuring for multiple decades. We have zero information on how quickly selphids level, and it’s quite possible they could be similar to Ksmvr and be considerably stronger than their levels indicate.